Podcast Episode #31
[00:00:00] Welcome to the extraordinary life podcast from the creator of the extraordinary life tribe, crystal, over gone, the self-development podcast propelling you forward toward your goals. Using science backed high performance habits. Reach the next level in your physical and mental health. See new Heights in your relationships.
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[00:00:30] Crystal: Hi there. This is Crystal from Crystal Obregon Coaching with episode number 31, of the ExtraordinaryLife Podcasts. Over the next few weeks, I'll be interviewing several women that are working toward their goals and dreams and living their brand of an extraordinary life.
[00:00:50] Last week I interviewed Tina Short, a fellow mom and local artist. Check out her interview if you haven't yet. And in [00:01:00] today's episode, I'm talking with Sue Butzow. I met her several years ago in a networking group we both belong to, and she has been a member of my Extraordinary Life Tribe Coaching Membership for the past year.
[00:01:15] And I've also been a client of hers for about fifteen months. Sue is a posture therapist certified in the Egoscue method and I first went to her because of the extra hip and shoulder pain I was experiencing with all the extra desk sitting I was, and still am doing during the pandemic. I'll let her tell you all about what she does and why she does it.
[00:01:42] So let's get started. Sue, tell my listeners a little bit about yourself.
[00:01:48] Sue: Thank you Crystal. Thanks for inviting me to be here. I'm a posture therapist, but I'm also a mom and a wife and a friend, and I just love being [00:02:00] involved with you. I I've loved having you as a client. I've loved being your client and it's just been a fabulous friendship.
[00:02:06] That's grown and, and I really appreciate you. Not all that you do. So I'll tell you a little bit about posture therapy to begin with when I was quite young teenager. I was a bus girl at a local steak restaurant. And I found my back hurting a lot and I was only about 15 or 16 years old and I'd come home and I'd ask my mom to rub my back.
[00:02:29] And she'd kind of do it for a couple of seconds. And then she'd say, oh, my hand is too tired. And from then on Crystal, I've had back pain off and on. Sometimes it's been very mild. Sometimes it's been very. I went on to be very physical in life. I'd run. I was a cheerleader in high school. I've taught aerobics.
[00:02:50] I went on to get my degree in physical education because I loved fitness. And so it always struck me. Well, [00:03:00] actually, I don't know if I thought about it back then, but now I think about it and go, wow. I had a lot of knowledge, but I still couldn't help myself heal my. So we just go, you know, on and on there's different, , parts of my life.
[00:03:14] Uh, when my youngest son was going to kindergarten, I, the night before I leaned over the dishwasher to load something. And when I stood back up, I had excruciating pain and I spent the next three months going to chiropractors, acupuncturists, cranial, sacral therapy, uh, Feldenkrais everything.. It took about four months for that back pain to go away.
[00:03:40] So yeah, that was, that was, and there's been other episodes. And then I would be fine for, for long periods of time. At one point I, um, participated in team and training the lymphoma society fundraising group, and I ran a marathon. So it was just interesting that this, this would come about at different times.
[00:03:58] And it was, it was hard to be. [00:04:00] So about eight years ago, I was just seeing a chiropractor, not even in a lot of pain at that point, just kind of maintenance type a person. And he had a flyer for a personal trainer and it was a personal trainer was really close to my home and I thought, oh, you know, I should try this.
[00:04:19] And I am so glad I did. I went to him. He had a, a special for a month. And honestly, when I was doing the exercises in the, it was like small group class, like three or four people I would go and I would do these exercises and I was kind of insulted because they were pretty easy and I didn't really get like, okay, I'm, you know, I'm in my mid forties at that point feeling pretty good.
[00:04:43] Like I should be doing more. But at the end of the month, I couldn't believe how great my back belt and it, the confidence it gave me, like knowing these simple exercises that could help me in these different, um, periods of life. Wouldn't it. When I'd have back pain was [00:05:00] fabulous. Like I was just not only physically feeling great.
[00:05:02] I was feeling really good, you know, mentally like that. It just gave me so much. And I did ask my trainer, you know, what, what are these exercises? And he said, well, I'm certified in Egoscue method. So I checked it out and read the books. was the person who came up with this in the 1970s. And he had some injuries from being in Vietnam and came home and everybody kept telling him it was in his head because they couldn't think.
[00:05:34] And he finally just looked at his body and he, he saw the, the differences from the right to the left. So the right shoulder should look like the left shoulder, but, you know, perhaps it was elevated or rotated. I don't know exactly what he was going through, but he thought, oh, I can find an exercise that brings this back in alignment that will fix me.
[00:05:55] And he's been on the path ever since. So I got certified [00:06:00] and I've been seeing clients and teaching classes, group classes for probably about three years, now.
[00:06:06] Crystal: That guy that was the personal trainer. Did you work with him for a while or did you work with somebody else?
[00:06:12] Sue: Well, once I decided that I would get certified, I went through the certification process.
[00:06:18] I also saw somebody. And a different person. I think I'm in San Jose and there are, there are two other people that are certified and the personal trainer, he was great. He didn't really practice true. Egoscue like he wasn't looking at my posture and giving me specific things. He was just giving general exercises to.
[00:06:39] You know, like if one hip is elevated or one shoulder is rotated. So he was just giving general exercises. My family took a little bit cation to Austin, Texas, and it was right over my birthday. I usually get myself a massage for my birthday, but that year I got myself another appointment. At another Egoscue clinic and saw that person.
[00:06:59] So [00:07:00] I'm trying to see as many different practitioners just to learn their, you know, their style and get to know them personally. So, right. I like that. Now that we've been in the pandemic for two years, I've met many more of them because we're all getting so used to zoom. So I see people on zoom as clients.
[00:07:19] I also go to different practitioners for. Um, my own care. I don't like to get my own. My own menus is what we call the, the exercises. I don't like to give those to myself. I love when somebody else tells me. Oh, try this and I, it might be an exercise I've never done.
[00:07:35] Crystal: Yeah. It's the same as me having a life coach as well.
[00:07:38] It's important to have that outside perspective.
[00:07:41] Sue: Right. And then it takes the pressure off of us because it's hard to be the client and the practitioner at the same time. And so, yeah, I, I just committed to myself that I will always, you know, have three or four appointments a year that are specifically, you know, for me to feel better.[00:08:00]
[00:08:00] And I love that, right. I feel stronger. I'm 56, almost 57. And the beginning of the pandemic, I was very in a lot of pain and doing what I knew had what to do and you know, feeling better. But, um, I started going to see somebody and I I'm stronger now than I've ever been. And in my posture. Yeah. Yeah. It's not easy, you know, it's not easy, but it is so worth it.
[00:08:26] Crystal: Yes. I, I completely agree because that's why I saw you initially too, is that we don't realize that if we're working from home, there's all this walking that happens. If we're out in the world more really. I'm still not out in the world a ton. Even if you're driving somewhere, you're walking into your car and then you're walking from your car to some place.
[00:08:52] And it's really a lot more sitting. I know I work at my desk a lot and I'm in the downstairs part of my [00:09:00] house. And there's a bathroom downstairs when I need to use the restroom. I go all the way upstairs, because I want that little bit, we have extra,
[00:09:12] we're just coming from a sedentary lifestyle anyway.
[00:09:16] Sue: You know, even before we just didn't move the way our ancestors did. So, um, yeah, you got ask you is all about getting movement back in the body so that the body will move
[00:09:28] Crystal: now is even if you're athletic and you're working out. Even every day, there's still these long periods of time where you're not moving, or even like you were talking about you were a busperson at the steak house.
[00:09:44] It's still not quite the same. Is it?
[00:09:46] Sue: Well, it's not the same. And also what happens too, is whatever movement we're doing is what our body begins to adapt to. So there are sports and I'm not going to, I don't mean to pick on you. [00:10:00] But there are sports like cycling that are fabulous for getting your heart rate up.
[00:10:04] Wonderful for conditioning, a lot of muscles, but aren't that great for posture because you're bent over. Right. And so for cyclists and, and, and you can speak to this too. If you can then incorporate 15, 20 minutes of exercises that pull your shoulder blades back and get that upper back, not rounded, but, you know, and, and work on some of the, the hip muscles that aren't utilized in cycling.
[00:10:33] I mean, it's true of any sport, even runners or there's nothing that uses everything, you know, so we always need to, to add a little something in that is specifically to keep our posture aligned so that we can feel great. And then go back into that sport the next day.
[00:10:48] Crystal: Right? I definitely, you gave me some exercises for my son to do, because he's very much into cycling and I want to make sure that he [00:11:00] doesn't experience some, you know, some of the back pain and some of the things that I experienced when I was cycling a lot and I have to share one thing that we just got back from skiing up in the mountains and.
[00:11:17] My husband videoed me and I had never actually been videoed skiing before I've been skiing since I was 18. So I didn't learn as a kid, as a young kid, I was still a kid, but. He was telling me, and he's, he's very, very experienced skier. Well, snowboarder now he actually said, and use these words that my body is so different now that he can see that I'm just more aligned.
[00:11:46] You know, I'm more upright the way that I should be. And wow. It's interesting that you use the word align because trying to be very disciplined about doing my exercises in the morning and in the evening. [00:12:00]
[00:12:00] Sue: Oh, it makes a huge difference than doesn't it?
[00:12:02] Crystal: It does.
[00:12:03] Sue: When your body is balanced right to left front to back.
[00:12:06] Whatever, whatever you do feel so different. Yeah. I had one client that she came to my class, she had a shoulder pain and she then started doing the exercises and she told me that her friend noticed. You know, people notice our posture, right. So that was fun. She, she was able to strengthen that shoulder and get it back into place.
[00:12:27] Cause it felt like falling forward and yeah, it was neat that her friend noticed that. That's great. Great feedback.
[00:12:33] Crystal: Definitely because none of us want to be over .
[00:12:37] Sue: Hunchback of Notre Dame. Well, it is funny. Yeah. I do show, when I do a corporate lecture, I have a diagram of what good posture looks like.
[00:12:47] Because this is audio while just describe it. But if you look in the mirror, your right shoulder and your left shoulder should look the same. So typically one shoulder might be higher than the other, but also one shoulder might look [00:13:00] closer to the mirror and that would be like rotation.
[00:13:03] So one's rotated forward than the other one will look further back. And then you work down the body. The hips should be the same too. So you might see one hip higher than the other. You might see one hip coming forward. That's rotation. When we look at our knees, the knees should point straight ahead, but oftentimes you'll see knees kind of pointing out or they can point you in.
[00:13:24] And one of the easiest things , to see is people's feet. Right? Cause you don't really have to look, you know, just look down and I'll tell you, it drives me crazy , when I'm out in public. But when people's feet, their toes start to go out to the side. So they're more like, you know, duck foot is what we call.
[00:13:41] And that is so common Crystal, and it just shows that the hips are not bearing the weight as they should. So , the feet have to work in a way that they're really not designed to. And , so then, yeah, and then from front to back at your ear should be over your shoulder, which should be over your [00:14:00] hips, which should be over your knees over your ankles.
[00:14:02] And so many people are just kind of wavy in there. They'll their hips are bailed forward. Their shoulders are back their heads forward just trying to balance their body. So yeah, , when people know what good posture is it, then you see it in the world. And, and, uh, very, uh, common population that we work with are the elderly.
[00:14:22] And as you see, you know, I have four neighbors right on my block that I watched walked down the street and their head. It's completely in front of their body and it's, you know, I feel for them, that's very painful. It's not that hard to get it back over your shoulders, but it is work. Right, right.
[00:14:44] You have to know exactly what to do and, and then do it. Right.
[00:14:47] Crystal: And it is work. One of the things I love about it is generally. It's 10 or 15 minutes to do the full compliment of exercises that you give me. And then if I do them twice a [00:15:00] day, it's a little more, but anybody can find that time. And it doesn't mean I don't still, I still love to do my yoga too, but then my yoga feels better.
[00:15:10] And. I've been biking more and I noticed, oh wow, my knees aren't hurting at all. That's not even something I think about now, which is amazing.
[00:15:20] Sue: That's awesome. Yeah. And that is very, very common in Egoscue when people come to us, I think your main complaint was your mid back. Right. And so we were working and when I looked at your posture, I looked at everything.
[00:15:36] Right. I didn't look at your mid back and say, Crystal, here are five exercises for your mid back because I was looking at everything. So shoulders, hips, knees, ankles, feet. And then it doesn't matter where your pain is. I see what's off. And I say, oh, you know, and I don't even specifically remember. So, but let's just say it was your hip let's [00:16:00] work on the hip.
[00:16:01] Let's get the right hip in the left. You know, to do the same thing to be equal to, to work together. And then the mid back starts to feel better, right? Because the mid back was compensating. It was doing more work than it needed to cause the hips weren't doing it well. In all of that, we hadn't even talked about your knees.
[00:16:20] Crystal: Right? Because that was just a foregone conclusion for me,
[00:16:25] Sue: low on your list. And I wasn't working on your knees, but I am looking at your knees. I look at your feet, I look at your hips and look at your shoulders and, you know, decide we work together. You're very good. You know, I love it. When people start to learn about their bodies, I have one client who says we're so proud of her.
[00:16:41] She really didn't have a lot kinesthetic awareness when we first started. Just last month, she did one exercise and she would bring her shoulders back and she goes, I noticed how much better I breathe. Wow. Yeah. Because when our shoulders are forward, our lungs don't [00:17:00] have as much room to expand and, and it's hard to take a deep breath.
[00:17:04] Crystal: Right. And then your body and your brain, everything's not getting the oxygen. Can you imagine?
[00:17:12] Sue: Another one that's really fun. And, and I I've experienced this myself personally. I'm not a person. Who's had a lot of sinus infections or anything like that, but I do get a stuffy nose pretty, you know, at times.
[00:17:24] And when I'd get a stuffy nose, now I get down and I do some exercises to pull my shoulders back, to pull my head back over my shoulders. And , I can tell the difference. The stuffiness can go away.
[00:17:36] Crystal: Wow. Interesting.
[00:17:38] Sue: Yeah. See if that, you know, I don't think people really notice, right. They might, it might be happening for them, but I was like, well, I don't really know what happening to me, but the body is fabulous and , I'm just, I'm always amazed at when people do the exercises, how quickly they can get better.
[00:17:56] Okay. We're setting muscle memory, [00:18:00] right? Like our muscle memory right now is bend forward. Look down, you know, stare at a screen. But when you get that, , where you can pull your shoulder blades together and pull that head back and do it fairly easily because. You're used to it. You've trained your body.
[00:18:16] Crystal: Yeah. Yeah. Just that difference. Taking my dogs for a walk. I can tell that my posture is more upright, but it's not because I'm forcing it more upright.
[00:18:27] Sue: Right? You do that in your, in your exercise, your Egoscue sessions and then it just follows.
[00:18:33] Crystal: What's something about being a business owner that you didn't expect?
[00:18:38] Sue: Oh gosh, , that's a good question. Okay. I guess currently right now, it's hard to separate yourself. , I go to the grocery store every day and I'm like, oh, I wish you would be my client. , when I see these people in pain, , and it's kind of driving me crazy, honestly. So I'm trying to separate [00:19:00] myself and, uh, being a business owner has great highs.
[00:19:03] I love working with people and, , being able to do it on my own terms and then just, you know, the marketing is not my favorite, so that's been challenging. And, but thanks to you, crystal. I have a ten-year plan and that has calmed me down a lot. When I first started working. When I first got certified, I just wanted to go out and have clients all day long and teach all these classes.
[00:19:28] And it's not easy to find people who are really interested in putting the time in.
[00:19:35] Crystal: Everyone wants to feel better. For your body, it takes time. For your mind, it takes time.
[00:19:41] Sue: Right. And Egoscue is actually they say in their books, it's about 90% effective. So, which is huge, right? But the reason it's that effective is because people have tried everything else.
[00:19:54] You know? I mean, we, we work with people who have had back surgery and it didn't work or, , people who've gone to , [00:20:00] all the different things that I named acupuncture, chiropractor, physical therapist, and all of those people are great. I love them. I have one of each, but sometimes you need to work on specific things that those people are just not, that's not their training.
[00:20:14] That's not their. There are a set of skills.
[00:20:19] Crystal: Right. It just occurred to me that it's almost like, I mean, sometimes you do need those modalities as well, but also it's almost like I think of a life coach, which I am being forward-thinking and we're working on changing the way we think our perceptions to move forward.
[00:20:42] But that doesn't mean that sometimes we don't need a therapist or a counselor that's in my mind. And in my experience it's more putting some things in the past.
[00:20:55] Sue: Yeah. That's, that's perfect. Yeah, exactly. And I like to say that I [00:21:00] love to go to the chiropractor and get a good adjustment. But when I come home, this was prior to Egoscue , you know, within a day or two, I don't have that same feeling.
[00:21:10] And so when I do Egoscue, when I do my posture exercises, I can create that feeling of, , rest and relaxation and alignment for myself in my own home. Right. And I can do it on the road. I'm here in the bay area and I love to go down to the central coast. I went to school in San Luis Obispo, and so I used to drive down there a lot.
[00:21:34] I still do. And I had specific memory of driving through a,drive-through restaurant to get bags of ice. Like I'd bring a Ziploc bag and I would put it on my back. And that's how I would drive down to, to San Luis because my back would hurt. And , that's the way I did it, you know, for years. And now I drive down without any pain at all, and I can stop at a restaurant or a, [00:22:00] a rest stop
[00:22:01] and , I have a couple standing exercises I can do in the restroom, and I can do a couple of standing exercises to help my back during that long drive.
[00:22:09] Crystal: So you already said that sometimes it is hard to separate your business from your personal life and, and seeing people. And I think we had a conversation about that before, in terms of, , people really need to decide they need to decide
[00:22:28] to work with you. And of course that's the whole marketing thing. So with your family life, because I know that your younger son is still completely at home and your older son
[00:22:40] Sue: is back and forth between here and college every weekend.
[00:22:46] Crystal: And you have a husband, how are you managing your family life and the changes and balancing it with your work and all of those things.
[00:22:57] Sue: You know, my family comes first , [00:23:00] and I've been very fortunate to be at home with my kids. So they're quite used to me being here and doing what I need to do, but it's also beautiful because they're old enough and they're, they don't want me to do, you know, they're not young kids wanting to needing me.
[00:23:15] So it's just, this business has provided, , something for me to focus on, , to let them see, , that I can have a job and work. So, I guess the time is balanced pretty easily because they don't need me as much. And I can put that time into my work or I can put it into myself. , and I'm not, , with your guidance in your group, I realize that this is not going to be my overnight success right now, and I'm putting time and effort and energy into it.
[00:23:46] When I want to, you know, if it's. It's it hasn't become all consuming. It was all consuming of my thoughts for a while, because I just wanted , to create this thriving business, [00:24:00] but I love what I do. And I know that, , the people I help are the people I help and the people who come to me will come to me when they're ready.
[00:24:07] So I'm very, very content at that. Balancing point.
[00:24:13] Crystal: I know that with certification, sometimes you can feel okay, I'll get certified and then the masses of people will come. And it really is quite like,
[00:24:23] Sue: yeah, not like that at all. And you know, doing your own business, you start with your friends.
[00:24:30] Right, right. And that becomes a little bit of a sticky wicket sometimes. So, you know, I've told that everybody knows that what I do, and I try to keep my mouth shut and let people come. And then, you know, people recommend other people and that's always the best way to go about it. And, , I'm picky too. I want to spend time with clients who are, you know, really are focused on it because there's a lot of energy that can go out when people kind [00:25:00] of sit, sit on the fence and
[00:25:01] want a lot from you, but don't want to put what they need to put into it. It's important to find good clients,
[00:25:08] Crystal: right? And honestly, friends can be the hardest clients. They can almost make it feel like it's going to be harder than not that there's anything wrong with them or you, but sometimes when you are comfortable with somebody, you don't quite put the effort.
[00:25:27] And that you would.
[00:25:29] Sue: Yeah, well, and that, I think that's been a great learning lesson too, is, you know, you, you just have to value what you give and, don't let yourself be taken advantage of, but I think the hardest part is friends is when they start telling you everything that's wrong. Then they won't listen to what you know, like they know what you do, but they don't want to hear from me, but it's okay.
[00:25:52] You know, that's my growth to just let them be where they're at.
[00:25:57] Crystal: So if you could go back [00:26:00] and give your 18 year old self one piece of advice, or it could even be your 20 year old self, it doesn't have to be your 18. What would it be?
[00:26:12] Sue: Well, I don't want to sound like an advertisement, but I just wish I had started this ages ago.
[00:26:18] You know, like all of the different episodes of life. And a lot of it was emotional, you know, emotional pain manifesting itself as, as back pain. I just wish I had these tools back then , to feel better in my body and not, not go through as many, , physical. Episodes, I guess I'd call them where, for months or I would just, have very little energy because I was so focused on , my back pain and I was kind of known, I actually saw a friend of mine and she was introducing to me, to her kids.
[00:26:54] You know, we, we were friends before we were married and she goes, oh, this is my friend Sue. And [00:27:00] she's had a lot of back pain and it was so fun for her to say that. No, I don't, I don't know what I'm not that person anymore. Right. And going forward in my life, , when I see, , elderly people and I go, oh, you know, like in the past it might've made me think, oh, I'm going to look like that.
[00:27:20] Or, oh, that looks painful. Or how do you avoid it? But now I have so much, , confidence that my body's going to be really great. One of my favorite people she's. Seventies she's, uh, you know, she does posture therapy up in Washington and she just sent out , , her exercise program to share with the other posture therapist.
[00:27:41] And I was amazed at all the work this woman is doing. And I'm like, wow, that's that? I want that to be me. She does an hour of exercises a day. Wow. And not the easy ones. There are a lot, you know, there are a lot of challenging exercises and. [00:28:00] She, she hit them all. Wow. Yeah. Was very inspiring.
[00:28:05] Crystal: That is inspiring.
[00:28:07] So tell me about one of the most influential people in your life and how they impacted you.
[00:28:18] Sue: Oh gosh. That's I'm gosh, I have so many I'm going to pick right now. I'm going to pick, uh, my husband. Yeah. Yeah. He's a hard worker and he has just been our rock through the past two years. He inspires me, you know, he's all in for our family and our, in our marriage.
[00:28:39] And that makes me want to do the same. I mean, I kind of already did, but
[00:28:44] Crystal: that's amazing because we all know that this past two years, I can't believe it's really has been almost two years is not easy. And really it could go either way.
[00:28:59] Sue: Oh [00:29:00] yeah. And I, yeah. And if anybody's listening and they're, they're struggling, don't think that it has been easy.
[00:29:05] We've had struggles. It was hard to get used to having him home. He's working from home now most are. And then at one point they were trying to open back up and I was like, I don't want him to be gone that long, like the long commute and all of that. But anyway, yeah, I don't say that.
[00:29:23] Lightly, we've spent time in counseling and we worked on our marriage and it reminds me of that saying, somebody told me once, you know, you just water a tree, right. You keep watering the tree. You'd never see a tree grow. Right. They're just growing so slowly. And I feel like this is growth that we were watering years ago and it, and at that point it didn't feel like it was doing anything.
[00:29:51] A long period, but we stuck with it.
[00:29:54] Crystal: That's such a great example, really our relationships, if we don't water them, any [00:30:00] of our relationships, then they won't grow. Even when we're not seeing them grow and our bodies and our minds, all of those need to be fed our spirituality. All of it.
[00:30:14] Sue: Yeah. Yeah. That's so true and very challenging.
[00:30:18] Right. But, you know, when I reach out to somebody, with a text or something, you just, you can't believe how people get so excited to hear from each other. Right. And I'm the same way, you know, like, oh, who is that?
[00:30:34] Crystal: Definitely.
[00:30:36] Is there anything that you wish that I had asked you that I didn't ask?
[00:30:46] Sue: Just talking about your tribe.
[00:30:47] I wanted to just give that, give that a little shine, light shine, some light on that. That was just, , I don't know, it came at the right time for me [00:31:00] because we had just started to really get to know each other and I really trusted you. I really wanted. Long time ago before that, before I was in any networking or I knew about coaching, but I didn't know how to get that.
[00:31:12] And I, I think I called some people on from Yelp and just started to think about it. And yeah, working with you has been amazing and I love your, your content is good and has been so different. You know, like I really thought when I started, I thought, oh, I'm gonna, you know, this is going to just drive my business.
[00:31:31] I'm going to set all these business goals and it's gonna flourish. You know, low and behold in the middle of our year, you know, my older son went away to college and that just sent me in this different path, right. Where I'm now trying to just really, uh, take care of myself during this season of life, where I didn't realize how, how challenging that would be for me to have him leaving home.
[00:31:59] And yet, [00:32:00] you know, I still have the business goals and I still have. The, the knowledge that you've given me, you know, and it's, it's shifted now towards, you know, to be more focused on my personal life.
[00:32:12] Crystal: They do all go together.
[00:32:15] Sue: Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it's very similar to what, what we do with Egoscue, right?
[00:32:21] Like the body is body, the mind, it's all working together and, and yeah, you get to help my mind think positively about the future and to take care of myself in the moment..
[00:32:32] Crystal: Right. And just get that foundation. That's why I came into the life coaching because I was an integrative health coach. And what I found is that most of my clients, they really had some of these things over here with their family or relationships or career issues, or many issues, spirituality, all those other things.
[00:32:56] I would say that they're more important even [00:33:00] than your nutrition and your exercise. And I think those two things are really important that if you're not totally even, or totally balanced, I don't think that it's possible for that. But if you're way out of balance in one area, then you're not going to be healthy.
[00:33:19] Sue: Yeah. And we're shifting all the time. Right? Like I was thinking I was going to focus on my business, but then, you know,my life said, no, let's focus on this other part and yeah. And I'll get back to all of it. Right. It's just cycling around and to really honor where we're at.
[00:33:37] Crystal: Yeah. It's about patience. And that's what I love about the idea of your 10 years.
[00:33:43] Goals and dreams. The goals are usually a little shorter term, but having your dream of 10 years from now, how you want your life to be, you have to have patience because when I first started actually doing the ten year dream and goals was [00:34:00] right before the pandemic. I mean, that's when I started teaching other people.
[00:34:04] So it was okay, here we are 2020, and all of that. It was very different than we expected it to be. And I know my ten-year dreams. I've made little tweaks here and there, but not because of the pandemic. I feel like I can still have my 10 year dreams or my accomplishments these past two years don't really change.
[00:34:30] Those I've have had to change my shorter term goals, which is fine.
[00:34:35] Sue: Right. It gives you room for things that come up like a pandemic or, you know, family situation.
[00:34:44] Crystal: Right. Because you know, my daughter also went off to college this past September and it hit me harder than I thought it would definitely. And. I definitely spent that time in the summer, you know [00:35:00] what she was around.
[00:35:00] Cause they don't always want you around, but putting that time into her and getting her ready and those last little things, and then they come back and that's a whole other thing
[00:35:15] Sue: in flux. Yes. It's learning to be flexible learning to, to accept what is, because I think, you know, as, as we get on in life.. There's just more and more change and less and less control.
[00:35:31] Crystal: So is there anything else that you would like to share before sign off?
[00:35:36] Sue: I think we've covered it. I really appreciate your time and your listeners for listening in and I loved it. Thank you.
[00:35:45] And so where can my listeners find you online?
[00:35:49] All right. My website is www dot pain-free. That's PA I N F R E E with sue.com.[00:36:00]
[00:36:00] And yeah, if you go on there, you can see my classes. You can see it gets you through to my scheduling tool. My phone number, and my email are both there. Happy, happy, happy to discuss any questions they might have.
[00:36:14] Crystal: All right. Well, I will share Sue's website link in the show notes, along with the link to more information on the Extraordinary Life Tribe,because we have a new cohort coming up and thank you, Sue, for taking the time to share your story with me and my listeners.
[00:36:33] I really feel like your work and you have become an important part of my life.
[00:36:40] Sue: Thank you, Crystal.
[00:36:41] Crystal: You're welcome. So everyone have a great rest of your day. Thanks for listening. I'll see you in here next week. Bye for now.
[00:36:53] Sue: Thank you for listening to the Extraordinary Life Podcast with writer and coach, Crystal Obregon.
[00:36:58] We'd love to connect with you outside [00:37:00] of the podcast, too, to find more helpful insights, show notes and more about crystal. Go to Crystal Obregon. That's O B R E G O N, where you will also find info for the Design Your Decade workshop. This workshop will help you to stop drifting and start creating. Until next time, be extraordinary.