Podcast Episode #47
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[00:00:00] Nafissa: Welcome to the Extraordinary Life Podcast from the creator of the Extraordinary Life Tribe, Crystal Obregon, the self-development podcast propelling you forward toward your goals, using science backed high performance habits. Reach the next level in your physical and mental health. See new Heights in your relationships.
[00:00:18] Gain clarity on your purpose and live your extraordinary life. Welcome your host writer, speaker and coach. Crystal Obregon.
[00:00:29] Crystal: Hi there. This is Crystal from Crystal Obregon Coaching with episode number 47 of the Extraordinary Life Podcast. In today's episode, I'm talking with coach, mentor, and healer, nafissa Shireen.
[00:00:47] Nafissa believes that we all have a unique purpose and that it's possible to make great money doing what you love and what you know, you are called here to do. Her [00:01:00] approach brings together mindset, energy, spirituality, strategy, and horse wisdom to help you create an extraordinary life and legacy.
[00:01:11] Nafissa and I met at the first business event I ever went to. In fact, I won the ticket to the event, or I probably wouldn't have gone to the event. We followed each other on social and it was about a year later that I really started to take notice of what she was doing. I think it was about the time she had bought her ranch and was starting to think about bringing horses into her quote un quote business coach.
[00:01:40] She'll say more about that, but suffice it to say that she's much more than just a business coach. As she started to show more of her authentic self, I became more interested in what she had to offer. And when I completed my life coach certification, I hired her to help me make [00:02:00] the transition from health coach to life coach, and then continued on to have her helping me breakthrough with my business.
[00:02:10] I shared about my experience working with her way back in episode number two of the podcast. So definitely go back to that when, when you have a chance. In this interview, we talked about beliefs, purpose, career, change, horses, life and business struggles, coaching and prosperity. We had such a great time and there are so many nuggets of wisdom that I thought I would split the interview into two more digestible parts.
[00:02:38] I know you'll love it. So without further ado, here's part one:
[00:02:45] Nafissa, tell my listeners a little bit about yourself.
[00:02:49] Nafissa: Thank you so much for having me here today, Crystal. I had a good chuckle when you said the quote unquote business coach, cause that's like perfect. I would consider myself the non-business business coach.
[00:02:59] I've [00:03:00] had a lot of experience in business as you know, I used to be a CPA and I worked in corporate and. So for me, business's easy people. Aren't and I was one of those people that weren't necessarily easy either. So when I first started my business, I thought that all of my business skills would translate and they never did.
[00:03:23] I went from to like having a really great career to just bottoming out. And I always say, you know, my first year in business, I hit six figures really quickly. Unfortunately it was the wrong way. Um, because the money went. And so that's what got me really interested a little bit in, in personal development, which is based on kind of why I was struggling, you know, what was going on with me in that aspect.
[00:03:47] And so it just started a journey of, of this fabulous career that I had. And then. I left it because it wasn't right anymore. And then I started my own business and I had all the hard [00:04:00] knocks, you know, I think we all can appreciate what it's like when you first start a coaching business, not as straightforward as you would seem.
[00:04:08] And then as that really developed and blossomed, I wanted more because I, I am an avid horsewoman, but the crazy thing is, is that I wanted a business with horses and I wanted my own. Ranch or farm to have horses. And I was terrified of my own horse. So this was a journey that I was going through in my coaching programs with my own coach.
[00:04:36] I was attracted to her because she had a horse and there were days where I was ready to actually give tip away. Like I just, I couldn't do it. And as valuable as all the business coaching was that I had with her, I think. The biggest benefit was she wouldn't let me give up on myself and my horsemanship and she [00:05:00] helped me find other local coaches to help me work through that.
[00:05:02] And then I wanted to bring horses into my, my business because of the transformation they had on my life. And I didn't really know about this modality of, of working with horses. I didn't know how that worked until I started to see other people do it. And I just, I got curious. And so that's kind of around 2018 when I brought it all.
[00:05:21] And I think when we met at the time at that event, I can't believe it was, it would be more than four years ago. Cause I've been here for four years. It was probably five now. So it's quite a while I was still boarding chip and I had just started leasing Jake. So that was like, I just got that pony and I only had him part-time because I was trying to.
[00:05:44] Get a lot more confidence by working with a pony to work with my own horse. I was also in the process of taking my own NLP certification. And as you know, when you take a coaching program, you are working through your own things with your classmates and they, because they're coaching you, you're coaching [00:06:00] them.
[00:06:00] And so I was, I thought I've got 12 days here of NLP, eight hours a day. I'm going to work on my fear of horses because I really want it. And so it was at that event. Thank you. You met one of the ladies. Her name was Nicole. She was one of my buddy partners. She was the one that worked with me on the belief that I could have a farm or not have a farm.
[00:06:22] And so it's been a long process to get there. And so now I have this place, I've got four horses. We've had a lot of them come through with different borders, but I've got my own core herd here and. It's non-business business coaching because I work with people on all those things that, that aren't business problems per se, but left unchecked, they will become one.
[00:06:47] And then when we work through that and healing that, well, the business stuff, easy, like I can tap into, you know, my business experience and we can put all that together. So that's kind of me in a nutshell and horse obsessed is probably the best way to say it because now I live and [00:07:00] breathe everything for my horses.
[00:07:01] And it's just, it's an incredible, like, I just. Having this life, it's not the easiest life having a farm because owning horses and owning farms are two different hobbies, but I can't imagine not having it.
[00:07:15] Crystal: You named it Believe and See Ranch. Tell us a little bit about your journey to getting the ranch and also why the name,
[00:07:26] Nafissa: Anybody that would have known me in the horse world knew that I talked nonstop about getting.
[00:07:32] I don't think any of them believed me because of all the fears that I had. Right. So, but that was just one aspect of it. I live in Vancouver, the Vancouver area. So real estate's really expensive here compared to the rest of Canada. And I had this belief in my head that I, I needed 10 acres. Like that was just in my head and that I needed like so much money and I didn't think I could do it.[00:08:00]
[00:08:00] It was just this big stumbling block that I didn't think I could do this. And I went to an event one day with he wasn't my mentor at the time. I was hoping at some point I could hire him when I eventually did. And I remember it was just a small room of 35 people and he had everybody get up to the mic and say, why are you here?
[00:08:22] I don't like getting up and taking the mic. It's just, I feel very vulnerable. I mean, I know it's a good thing and I know it's, it's, it's good for me to stretch that muscle and it's good for other people to see us as human when we do that. But the fear of, I love being on stage. Right. But being on the other side of that microphone was terrifying for me.
[00:08:43] And he goes, why are you here? And I, so I jokingly said, well, you're, you know, your sales person gave me a Facebook message and invited me. He goes, why are you here? I was trying to avoid it. And then I was shaking at the microphone, like literally shaking. And I said, because I [00:09:00] want a horse farm. And he's like, Okay.
[00:09:06] I actually said it out loud in front of a group of like professional peers, not horse peers. They don't know all my fears, but you know, who might have all this in any way. He comes up to me at the end of it and says, okay, you book a VIP day. Okay. I did. And, and I, and his, his whole, one of his mottos and in his company is just belief.
[00:09:29] Right. It was always about getting your beliefs straight, getting your mind right. And so on my very first VIP day with him, I sat there and said I wanted to do this. And at that point I still hadn't realized I could actually work with horses. Like I had it kind of in the back of my mind, this whole coaching thing, I had talked so much to people about wanting to get a farm.
[00:09:53] And I, I felt that all my friends already thought I was ridiculous. I was not going to give voice to the fact, well, maybe I could do horse coaching. [00:10:00] I'm like, I, I was still literally in a place where I wouldn't lead my horse from one place to another, without somebody else there. So while we're sitting at that VIP day, he just says, so do, do you want to be a leading coach in this industry?
[00:10:17] Do you want a business where you can be a leader in the personal development industry? Or do you just want to go work with your horses? And in that moment, I got really, really angry because I felt like he was saying, you can, you can't be a coach and have horses. That's all I heard. And I'm thinking, why not?
[00:10:35] Like, so if I, if I have all my horses and I can't be a coach, but I want to be a coach, I can't, you know, you get those moments where you're just like feeling this rage come up and I'm like, who is he to say. And then I kind of stopped myself and I'm like, wait a minute, didn't say, have horses. He said, work with horses, work with this, or work with that.
[00:10:54] And it just came out of my mouth. I went, well, why can't I have both? [00:11:00] He goes, well, I didn't say that you just did. Do you want both? It was just a mind blowing moment. I'm like, oh, I said, can I. Do you want it? And so that's when I started, I started working with him and so it required a lot of belief. Like I had to learn, you know, that I could believe in my business to be big enough to say that at that point, I had done a lot of the NLP work already on, on the horse fear, but I had, or was it, no, I hadn't started the NLP work yet at that point, this was early 2017.
[00:11:34] I think that was the year that we met. I hadn't started the NLP work, so I was still afraid of the whole. And I was, had no idea how I was going to buy a farm like that. And then, so I had to learn how to sell. I had to learn to be more like show up differently in my business. I had to get my head around the investment on the farm, but partly what really helped was the [00:12:00] incredible investment I had made with him to realize if I could make that kind of payment every month, then I probably afford a farm payments, you know?
[00:12:09] And so about five months into our coaching relationship, I was at an event that he was hosting for his clients. Wasn't a public event and he was teaching about quantum leaps. He was asking everybody in there. I want you to write down what is going to be your quantum leap in one year. What do you, what do you need to make in your business to have a quantum.
[00:12:33] So it gets to be my turn. I don't know what to say. And I'm sitting there and I didn't know, I literally didn't know what to put down because the number in my head was just so obnoxious to what I would need and he goes, okay, so just, what do you want the money for? So this was June 8th and I will never forget these dates.
[00:12:52] He goes, what do you want the money for? I said, well, you know, to buy my farm, he goes, well, what will it take? I said, well, in [00:13:00] Vancouver, it'll probably take two and a half million dollars to buy it. He goes, there you go. There's your quantum leap. We'll see that in a year. And again, I was really triggered.
[00:13:10] Take the attention off of me. Fine. A few months later, I realized that I had never even talked to a real estate agent or a banker ever. I just didn't like, I was like, of course I'm not going to have this. And when I started that process, it actually happened really quickly. Um, we made an offer on place where we had to move away and that didn't work and, you know, cause it wasn't what I really wanted.
[00:13:35] Like I didn't want to move away. I wanted to stay in my neighborhood. So when we let that place go place, I'm in now just came up on the, I got a notification about it, literally about half an hour after letting the other place. And it was five minutes from my house. I didn't know it existed. So we did all the paperwork and I mean, real estate transactions or nightmares for anybody.
[00:13:58] And we had, we had a [00:14:00] house to sell all. We had to have one to buy and we need to line up. And there was lots of, lots of nail biting moments. And then June 11th, one year and three days later, I had closed on the sale of my house and on the purchase of this. And I remembered, he said that, well, there you'll be in one year is your quantum leap?
[00:14:22] And I didn't believe, I mean, I was annoyed at the time. I'm like, that's not possible, but it happened because I had worked on all my beliefs. And so the name believe in sea ranch came about, was like, I went from disbelief to belief. And when I went to belief, I was able to see it. And so that's how things do manifest in our lives is we have to have a really strong belief.
[00:14:46] That showed itself to me with this farm. And so it, it just seemed, that was just the name that had, and it wasn't about just believing. I had to believe it to see it. And that's what it represents for, for me still, because it's [00:15:00] still a place of ongoing transformation. And it's also for my clients because I do work a lot on beliefs, so it all fell in, but again, it was driven through my own experience of.
[00:15:13] Going from complete disbelief to belief to manifestation.
[00:15:17] Crystal: I've heard that story before. I actually took that into my own life. On my 10 dreams that I write as if they'd already happened. One of them is having a place to retreat to, and the mountains, um, to retreat to the mountains. I think that's how I say it.
[00:15:35] I remember you saying that you hadn't even talked to a realtor, like you actually didn't know how much it would cost. Right. And so last winter, not this past winter, the one before, when my kids were completely online in school, I started thinking. I should look to see what it actually does [00:16:00] cost to buy a home in the mountains.
[00:16:03] And I came across this townhome and I said, let's just go look at it. It doesn't cost anything to look. And so I called the realtor and it was great. It was actually is right in the place that I would want it on the meadow. We thought about it for a month and then decided. To go for it. And two months later we, we bought it and, and it actually, it's not, you know, I can't go anytime I want, but I still have one kid in school that actually has to, to go in person now.
[00:16:39] And, but it is a place I can, I can retreat to. By myself and a lot
[00:16:44] Nafissa: more than you could, if you didn't have it. Right. That's the part that's really cool.
[00:16:49] Crystal: Yes, exactly. And so just that idea of not just having these pie in the sky dreams .
[00:16:56] Nafissa: Right. You have to take the steps, cause those will start to [00:17:00] change the belief.
[00:17:01] When you take the steps, it happens quickly. And that it's our beliefs that keep us from not taking those steps. Like I could never afford it or I couldn't do it or I'm too scared of my horses. Right. So it was all those things. In a year, the realtor, the NLP, the like everything. Right. And, you know, and, and, you know, you see my videos now with the horses.
[00:17:20] I mean, I'm out there dancing with two of them, like no issue. And I think about that, how that's happened in my life, I look at clients or friends or colleagues or my own coaches or just family members. It's easy to, I don't know what the word is, but like to just talk yourself out of it. Cause it just seems pie in the sky.
[00:17:41] But the fact is if you have that thought, then some way, somehow it is available to you and it never will be available if you just keep it a thought without taking action. And that was the one thing I learned in that was I haven't even talked to a banker or haven't [00:18:00] we had actually paid off our other house.
[00:18:02] And so I also have this rule in my head that, well, it has to be mortgage-free. But it didn't why that was a stupid rule. Right? Cause I had a lot of equity to put down on something that I was negating, just because I couldn't buy a farm for cash. So I had to sort of change some of my hard and fast rules that made absolutely no sense.
[00:18:24] I mean, I laughed when you said it doesn't cost anything to look because that's not true. We both ended up buying.
[00:18:34] But in the moment it doesn't. And yet it'll get you on the right path. Cause the first thing we looked at wasn't right. And we had to walk away from it and I believed that, you know, I couldn't get something in my neighborhood. And that was another really stupid belief that I was willing to settle for something I did not want to downgrade my dream when I didn't need to do that.
[00:18:57] I was able to. And so as painful as [00:19:00] it was to let that first property go, like we joke about it. That that was a bankruptcy starter kit, get it had two failed septic fields. Like how does that work and a failed? Well, so, cause it was just so dirty. So, and those are basics. Those are basic survival things you need to live, right?
[00:19:21] Like a well and functioning septic fields. And if those were failing, what else were we going to find? Yes. I had talked myself into, but that's all I'll ever be able to afford. It's better just to hold out just a little bit longer.
[00:19:36] Crystal: For somebody wanting to follow their dreams and perhaps not believing it's possible.
[00:19:42] What advice would you give somebody?
[00:19:45] Nafissa: I think the thing that I would recommend is, like you said, it takes work, right? I mean, it's, it's, it took me years to get there. And I've worked with people and it can sometimes take a couple of years to, because it is a process. But one of the things I think [00:20:00] is the most important is to put yourself in that environment as much as you can or things that can remind you of it.
[00:20:07] That's why vision boards do work really well. One of the things that helped me. And it's one of the things that I will work on with people is if you is, is the power of visualization, right? You're going to visualize, what will it look like? What will it sound like? What will it feel like when I have this?
[00:20:24] Right? And if you're thinking about what will it look like? And I remember one time I, it was, I can remember was a friend or a client. We were, I can't remember, but we were having this conversation. About where she wanted to be with something. And in her, in her visualization that just came out. One of the things was, she was never going to drink cheap wine.
[00:20:44] Again, she was always going to have really nice wine. So I suggested to her that, okay, well, you know, the first thing you need to do is you can start drinking, nice wine. Now you can have a bottle of it on your counter, even if you're not going to drink it all the time, [00:21:00] but just as a reminder. Right. So it was just a small thing to.
[00:21:05] Create like a physical connection between what was in her mind and what she wanted to do. And every time she would look at that, that would tweak her subconscious mind to the goals she was working towards. So for me, even though it took me awhile to reach out to let's say the realtors or the bankers, what ended up.
[00:21:23] Being the catalyst for me to take those steps was I did start looking at the MLS and driving around and looking at properties and just getting my head into what does that look like? Not just sitting in visualizing, but actually going out and looking at them and seeing them not open houses. I hadn't, I wasn't quite ready.
[00:21:44] I believe to, we have to do things at our own speed. Like if you're not ready to go to an open house, don't go to an open house. Drive by one, right. Just, just starting to put yourself into, into that type of stuff. And even with Jake, when [00:22:00] I took him on as a lease, that was the start of me saying, I don't just have a horse.
[00:22:04] I'm a horse woman. I now have to. And granted, I took a little pony that I felt safer with, but it was enough for me to just make that step. And, and I mean, he was leased, so it was only part-time I didn't have all the expenses. I didn't have the. And he was a little guy and you've met him. He's just, he's very stoic.
[00:22:23] He's very big
[00:22:24] Crystal: personality. I wouldn't call them
[00:22:26] Nafissa: friendly. I wouldn't call them friendly, but he's very, he's very safe. Right. It was just little things that, that you can do to put yourself in that, like, like you said, you know, you're looking at it, you know, you're just, you take those steps. The thing is the time's going to pass.
[00:22:42] Anyway. The interesting thing is, as you take them, you are slowly shifting your, your mind, your perception, your belief, it's the cliche saying it's like, you know, energy goes where your attention is, where attention goes, energy flows. Right? So it eventually happens. I mean, let's just say it's they want to take a first-class [00:23:00] trip to France, obviously the vision board and the pictures and all of that.
[00:23:03] But what are the things you would experience in France or what are the things you would experience on this trip? Start looking, going in and doing it, and maybe the first class trip to France, isn't that great. But the next time you have to take a local flight within the United States or Canada. Why not book that first-class like, just get yourself in that mindset that you are the person that does this, right?
[00:23:23] Because that's a small step towards it. And then the bigger thing will eventually happen.
[00:23:28] Crystal: My husband and I, we watch bike racing, the big tours. The Giro de Italia, which is happening right now. And then the two are different. And the Vuelta is the one in Spain and we watch them and talk about where we're going to go when the second kid is off to college.
[00:23:49] Not that we're waiting to do anything, but it is a lot of fun to do that with him because it's also creating something that we have.
[00:23:59] Nafissa: It's not just in your [00:24:00] head. It's it's spoken out loud. There's a commitment there and that will get you towards it.
[00:24:06] Crystal: What about when things don't seem to be working out, you had a few curve balls thrown at you.
[00:24:13] What tools did you use? What was your strategy?
[00:24:16] Nafissa: I don't think we were, you were in my, you were following me at the time I had my accident, so there was that one where smashed my face. We had a lot of construction that didn't really happen. Right. Then there was that flood that we had just before and then my mom died and then the pandemic, and then I had just put everything I had into this farm and my retreat business got closed down.
[00:24:40] And then there was a lot of grief with that to deal with. And then we got the horse that got injured. So there's been a few things, you know, I think part of it, I don't know how much is a strategy and not necessarily something I would endorse. This is just my character. I'm very stubborn. Right. And I just, I get that [00:25:00] from my dad and I just keep going.
[00:25:03] So, so when I fell, I, you know, I just kept going and, and I don't necessarily recommend that because I actually had an opportunity to take time off and I needed it and I should have. I did cancel a trip though. Cause I didn't think I could deal with airports and customs when I can even think. Through the rest of it,
[00:25:23] I just, I get on this treadmill of, of insanity when you do that. And I know there can be a lot of push out there and I don't see it as much now that the pandemics kind of phasing out. But before that a lot of the bigger gurus, like how bad do you want it? Like how bad do you want it? You obviously don't want it bad enough.
[00:25:40] And blahblahblahblahblah, and I remember. Just before everything shut down. My very last trip, uh, with my own mentor was in Charlotte and I went there and one of his recommendations for me and, and you know, a good [00:26:00] recommendation, I just couldn't see how it worked for me was to try and get more trips in and go to more events at least once a month.
[00:26:06] And I remember saying, well, I didn't buy a farm to leave it. And he's like, well, how bad do you want, you know, grow and build. And, and I had to really think about that. Do I not want it that badly? Well, yeah, but not one at the expense of the other, like how do I do it differently? Right. Because that won't work for me.
[00:26:24] And that was right after my mom died. So I was quite emotional and I, and I, I didn't. And I just thought about that thinking, well, that's, I don't know. Do I want to be that person that's on the road all the time and then the pandemic hit. I had my clients that were still working with me and that eventually phased out.
[00:26:40] And I, I made the decision and it scared the daylights out of me. I'm like, I'm not going to market. I'm just taking a year off. I I'm taking a year off. I still had some commitments that I, that I fulfilled, but taking the foot off the gas pedal for marketing. Oh, my. [00:27:00] Serving my clients is, I love it.
[00:27:04] Marketing is not, it's just, I'm not, you know, I didn't get into this business to be a marketer, but it was beginning to feel like that. And I think what helped me the most through all of that was taking that year off. It was really scary because I still had all these horses to feed. I was worried about relevance because that's, you know, you disappear from the marketing scene.
[00:27:30] Are people gonna remember you. I was scared that, well, what if I take this year off and I don't want to do what I've created?
[00:27:41] No time to think, but the catalyst for me on that though, was I was talking to one of my clients and she was really nervous about what all this space was going to free up. And she was in a position in her life where financially she was going to be okay. Even if her business took a [00:28:00] hit during this pandemic, right.
[00:28:01] In terms of money and whatever, but she was also kind of fretting about suddenly not having anything to do more than the financial thing. And as I said, the words to her, I said, I know you didn't choose this time, but if you did choose it, what would you do with it to make it feel like. This was time for me.
[00:28:25] And as the words were like coming out of my mouth, I was like, oh, I think I need to listen to that. And that was when I decided to take the year off. So I guess what I'm saying, and this is when curve balls hit, you definitely need your, your support. You know, I still had a mentor who supported me through all that.
[00:28:46] She was amazing. She gave me space. I told her I needed space. She gave me space. Um, she came back later and, you know, we picked up where we left off, but even in the space, there was always this little bits of support coming, which [00:29:00] really changed how I look at my business now because I don't, it just changed. I'm like, wow, that was a really cool thing for her to do.
[00:29:10] And so I wanted to pay that forward. So I had the space, I couldn't necessarily surround myself with people because we were in the midst of lockdowns. Uh, so I surrounded myself with my horses, but all those reasons that I was afraid to take a break where all the reasons I needed one, because yeah. What if I found out I didn't really want to do this after a break, maybe I need to find that out.
[00:29:34] Right. And I've been working since I was 17 and I turned 50 that year. So that's like 33 years, like nonstop. And so I think it's really listening to what you need and if you need a break, take it. And it's okay. And it hasn't affected me. I still haven't even come back full-time on the marketing side, but I still have clients in the background quietly.
[00:29:57] Right. And I will come back and I will have things that [00:30:00] are even bigger than before. And the good news is I discovered, yeah, I really still want to do what I'm doing, but more focused on this versus this. Right. And I took that time to dive into horsemanship. I took the time and I think there's just, we don't give ourselves time when we're hit with curve balls.
[00:30:20] And I think that was the biggest lesson I learned in 2020 was I'm worthy of giving myself time. And so where you are. So I think for anybody that hits those as to just, just take some time, even if it's just a couple of days, like people are afraid to take off a couple of days, give yourself the time.
[00:30:42] Because I was able to take off a whole year and it was still okay. It was still okay. When the curve balls hit, give yourself a few days, the email will still be there. People won't forget that you haven't actually posted on social media for a couple of weeks. They will not forget. In fact, if you haven't posted in awhile, [00:31:00] your next post will get a lot more reach.
[00:31:02] I've discovered that. So, yeah, I think that's, that's the advice I have now. It probably would have been very different when we were working together. Um, but.
[00:31:11] Crystal: I'm not having any curve balls thrown at me, but I have become very involved with my son's mountain biking. He's doing really well. And so we're going to these national events and traveling.
[00:31:23] The past week. I've been getting a little grumpy, I guess, because we're going to be gone on the road for about a month. And so I was starting to think of how I would do my podcast and do it in advance and all of those things. And I have a mini mastermind group that I meet with once a month and I brought it to them and they said, Oh, just take the time off.
[00:31:49] Oh, no, but if I just do two a week, then I can go and it'll be all covered and I won't have to stop. And then I started getting grumpy again and [00:32:00] my husband and I just had the conversation this morning. Just take three weeks off at least of the marketing, because I'm like you, I, I don't hate, hate the marketing.
[00:32:13] I love doing this part. I love the coaching. That's my actual passion and purpose. And it's funny how much work I have to do on myself to say, it's okay, take three weeks off. Be present with your 15 year old kid. I won't get that time back with
[00:32:35] him. Oh,
[00:32:36] Nafissa: You won't. You know, after my mom died, I mean, we were still working together when all that happened.
[00:32:43] Right. You know, I got the phone call that she was in hospital and then I didn't know, she's been sick for awhile. And then my niece texted me and said, no, it's really bad. And I, I was going to North Carolina the week after and you know, they, they graciously offered to reschedule. [00:33:00] My VIP day. That wasn't the issue, but I had in my head, no I'm going to go.
[00:33:04] I went there. We, we, that was there for when she passed and then, you know, we stayed a couple more days and then I just went onto my VIP day cause. Okay. And that was just how I was functioning to just, you just keep going, going, going. And I think that's kind of when I was like, I think if I can have, like, that was really nuts.
[00:33:21] Like, you know, my mom died on a, was it a Thursday or Friday? I was on a business trip. Think about the lunacy of that. Right. And that had nothing to do with my coach. They were going to reschedule, but I was like, no, no, I, I want it. You know? And then when I thought about the, the lunacy of it, it's like, no, that's I realize because some of the.
[00:33:46] Consciousness or what might've been out there was, well, you can't bring them back. It's you going to sacrifice your life going forward? Right. And I realized later, well, it wasn't just about [00:34:00] her. It's about me to needing space. And so that's, so I really took space, you know, and. I don't dislike some, well, some of the marketing for me is fun.
[00:34:14] All the horse videos that I put up, you can tell, I love it. You can see my passion in it. You know, try to tie it into a life lesson or be marketing about my business sometimes can be a little harder. Um, and I, and I I'll do it, but I, I, the confidence that I've developed in knowing that I don't have to talk about coaching when I'm having my horses up there, because people know what I do, they get it, you know, and I've still managed to have clients and still have that horse energy.
[00:34:38] When I actually was able to do my workshops last year, finally do them mandates had been lifting. I sold out in three days now, granted it was a local one, so it didn't take a lot of planning and people didn't have to travel, but still, you know, I hadn't done, uh, a multi-day what, wasn't a multi-day retreat, like a multiperson [00:35:00] retreat since you were here in 2019.
[00:35:03] So this is a two and a bit years later. And I was really nervous. Like I hadn't, and I just put it up and people came and it wasn't about the money or selling it. It was about being in that moment and having what I felt was my purpose. And I realized it was, and yeah, I hadn't done it a couple of years. I felt a bit rusty.
[00:35:27] Right. The next one was way better, but the people that were here still had transformational experiences. They still made big decisions. So all that stuff in my head of is, is it good enough or not good enough, my own stuff. I had to get over that. And I realized, yeah, I've, I've still just, I still shown up on social media, but as me, right.
[00:35:54] Not as the coach, but as me, all the bread I was baking was just sharing all of that. [00:36:00] And people still, still felt like they were in touch. So biggest lesson I learned and that I would recommend to people now is take a break. It will be there when you get back. Nothing's that urgent?
[00:36:21] Crystal: I hope you enjoyed part one of my interview with Nafissa. I hope she's inspired you to take even the tiniest steps forward towards your dreams and not settle for less than what you really want. I'll share Nafissa's website and social media info in the show notes. If you'd like to find out more about her and next week, you'll hear even more from Nafissa, when we talk about prosperity and how it's so much more than wealth, and also the important difference between being broke and being poor.
[00:36:57] Have a great rest of your day, and I [00:37:00] will see you in here next week. Bye for now.
[00:37:05] Thank you for listening to the Extraordinary Life Podcast with writer and coach, Crystal Obregon. We'd love to connect with you outside of the podcast, too. To find more helpful insights, show notes and more about Crystal, go to Crystal Obregon.com.
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